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  • AndrewPKYap's Avatar
    14,120 posts since Oct '06
    •  

      Thaksin Shinawatra, with the money Singaporeans gave him through the purchase of Shin Corp (bought around 48, now below 15) is fighting back.

       

  • AndrewPKYap's Avatar
    14,120 posts since Oct '06
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  • Quincey's Avatar
    609 posts since Jun '05
    • It's a stalemate at the moment, and another coup de'tat , whether or not sanctioned by the King will not resolve the issue. The issue as it stands can described as a political stasis, the people in the north support the People's Party (New TRT) because of the Agrian reforms Thaksin instituted are die hard supporters of the Thaksin faction. On the other hand, we have the urban dwellers of Bangkok and other major cities, and people in the South who are for the Democratic Party. At the moment, pro Thaksin forces seem to hold an advantage in terms of the electoral process, but faces a passionate minority who reject their rule. I think in this case, the King has to exercise his constitutional mandate and call for a power sharing government, otherwise those pitch battles on the streets of Bangkok will just go on. 

  • AndrewPKYap's Avatar
    14,120 posts since Oct '06
    • Originally posted by Quincey:

      It's a stalemate at the moment, and another coup de'tat , whether or not sanctioned by the King will not resolve the issue. The issue as it stands can described as a political stasis, the people in the north support the People's Party (New TRT) because of the Agrian reforms Thaksin instituted are die hard supporters of the Thaksin faction. On the other hand, we have the urban dwellers of Bangkok and other major cities, and people in the South who are for the Democratic Party. At the moment, pro Thaksin forces seem to hold an advantage in terms of the electoral process, but faces a passionate minority who reject their rule. I think in this case, the King has to exercise his constitutional mandate and call for a power sharing government, otherwise those pitch battles on the streets of Bangkok will just go on. 

       

      At the moment there are NIL "pitch battles on the streets of Bangkok" (at least nothing worth speaking of) because the Thais believe in non-violence and only civil disobedience.

       

      The judiciary is no longer under the control of politicians in power and are now independent.

      Thaksin, with money provided by Singaporeans might engage "merceneries" which would lead to civil war if the police and army cannot catch/stop them.

       

      The monarchy is obviously on the side of the civil disobedience protesters and the military is on the side of the monarchy. Any violent protesters/protesters disrupting normal business would be dealt with. Violent protesters/protesters disrupting normal business would not have the support of the people.

      Edited by AndrewPKYap 20 Nov `08, 9:10AM
  • TemplarKnight's Avatar
    327 posts since Nov '08
    • aiyah... why bother with LOS when the flame is already in our country?  Their IDOL of the King also Diam Diam so we also no need to worry about them lah.  It shows that the situation is not bad enough to warrant the King interference.

  • AndrewPKYap's Avatar
    14,120 posts since Oct '06
    • Originally posted by TemplarKnight:

      aiyah... why bother with LOS when the flame is already in our country?  Their IDOL of the King also Diam Diam so we also no need to worry about them lah.  It shows that the situation is not bad enough to warrant the King interference.


      Don't care about this and don't worry about that... and that is why it is I and not you that predicted this current mess in Singapore more than a year ago in sgforums (you can check). Not that I want to boast, you understand, I am just staing a fact.

       

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  • kramnave's Avatar
    2,301 posts since Aug '07
    • Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:

       

      At the moment there are NIL "pitch battles on the streets of Bangkok" (at least nothing worth speaking of) because the Thais believe in non-violence and only civil disobedience.

       

      The judiciary is no longer under the control of politicians in power and are now independent.

      Thaksin, with money provided by Singaporeans might engage "merceneries" which would lead to civil war if the police and army cannot catch/stop them.

       

      The monarchy is obviously on the side of the civil disobedience protesters and the military is on the side of the monarchy. Any violent protesters/protesters disrupting normal business would be dealt with. Violent protesters/protesters disrupting normal business would not have the support of the people.

      The last i read...there were deaths and injuries

  • TemplarKnight's Avatar
    327 posts since Nov '08
    • ye have my utmost respect for prediction.  IMHO, how much we care or how much we predict we still hiding in forum KPKB. Yes, just can KPKB.

      Oh, maybe we can join NATO. No action talk only.  I admit I am a bloody coward hiding in a temple.   But I guess most of us are doing the same thing..

      We can state facts but we cant change them.  We can change if at least 50% singaporean got erected and start marching into the istana and voicing out the displeasures and grieviences.  By then will be too much for the police to handle.  Yes until then we cannot do anything here, now or anywhere.

      However being said that..... remember the CHINA TIANANMEN slaughter.  Too much protestors then army will come in with tanks and crush you and grind your bones.  Then the paths in the istana will be red carpet for the unholy trinity to walk.  Wow, what a grand way of welcome.

  • AndrewPKYap's Avatar
    14,120 posts since Oct '06
    • Originally posted by kramnave:

      The last i read...there were deaths and injuries

       

      I said:

      " (at least nothing worth speaking of) "

      The triple murder + one in Singapore was more horrific.

       

  • kramnave's Avatar
    2,301 posts since Aug '07
    • Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:

       

      I said:

      " (at least nothing worth speaking of) "

      The triple murder + one in Singapore was more horrific.

       

      I mean..bombs, deaths, fighting with weapons isn't exactly civil disobedience....its violence....

      The triple murder thingy isn't exactly politically motivated isn't it  and has nothing to do with this ? Then might as well talk about serial killings in the states...

  • AndrewPKYap's Avatar
    14,120 posts since Oct '06
    • Originally posted by TemplarKnight:

      ye have my utmost respect for prediction.  IMHO, how much we care or how much we predict we still hiding in forum KPKB. Yes, just can KPKB.

      Oh, maybe we can join NATO. No action talk only.  I admit I am a bloody coward hiding in a temple.   But I guess most of us are doing the same thing..

      We can state facts but we cant change them.  We can change if at least 50% singaporean got erected and start marching into the istana and voicing out the displeasures and grieviences.  By then will be too much for the police to handle.  Yes until then we cannot do anything here, now or anywhere.

      However being said that..... remember the CHINA TIANANMEN slaughter.  Too much protestors then army will come in with tanks and crush you and grind your bones.  Then the paths in the istana will be red carpet for the unholy trinity to walk.  Wow, what a grand way of welcome.


      Oh please, I am no fool.... you really think I could have done more than "hiding in forum KPKB"? 

      hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha

      Are you in some sort of slumber and you have not woken up to the fact that here,


      Damned Dishonorable "Greedy for Public money" "Dissidents and Opposition Persecuting" Despots rule an Apathetic, "as long as they don't come and get me I close a blind eye" Sillipore?

       

      hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha

       

      These silliporeans can all go and die for all I care since they have no empathy for Dr Chee Soon Juan who has as good as sacrifice his life for them.

       

      So all I am willing to do is: "hiding in forum KPKB"

      Thank You, I am no Dr Chee Soon Juan, the martyr

  • TemplarKnight's Avatar
    327 posts since Nov '08
    • wait till the unholy trinity call on their SS personels just like Hitler did and send 6mil of jews into the slaughterhouse in europe. We are the millions being send into the slaughterhouse not physically but financially. And the Joke is: We cant do a damn thing to stop it happening. We study history and yet let history repeat itself in other forms. 

  • AndrewPKYap's Avatar
    14,120 posts since Oct '06
    • Originally posted by TemplarKnight:

      wait till the unholy trinity call on their SS personels just like Hitler did and send 6mil of jews into the slaughterhouse in europe. We are the millions being send into the slaughterhouse not physically but financially. And the Joke is: We cant do a damn thing to stop it happening. We study history and yet let history repeat itself in other forms. 


      Not too far fetched at all, the ass-son (cancer patient) already threatened Silliporeans not to expect a two party system....

  • TemplarKnight's Avatar
    327 posts since Nov '08
  • AndrewPKYap's Avatar
    14,120 posts since Oct '06
    • Originally posted by TemplarKnight:

      2 party system wont work lah sir.  Why? coz there isn't any to begin with.


      What he means is when he sees the system developing, he will, like you said, send in his SS squads...


       

  • oldbreadstinks's Avatar
    2,882 posts since Dec '03
    • Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:

       

      These silliporeans can all go and die for all I care since they have no empathy for Dr Chee Soon Juan who has as good as sacrifice his life for them.

      hah? he is obviously fighting for his own cause not for us, the people of singapore are not the ones he's sacrificing for. we might not even benefit if he succeeds, just changing from one despot to another.

      hitler himself claimed he's doing it for pure aryan germans when he snuffed out the jews, how come germans not celebrating his birthday now?

       

  • TemplarKnight's Avatar
    327 posts since Nov '08
    • if german celebrating hitler birthday then hor... the whole europe will march their army into berlin and exterminate the germans.

  • googoomuck's Avatar
    2,029 posts since Feb '06
    • Originally posted by kramnave:

      I mean..bombs, deaths, fighting with weapons isn't exactly civil disobedience....its violence....

      The triple murder thingy isn't exactly politically motivated isn't it  and has nothing to do with this ? Then might as well talk about serial killings in the states...

      That's because the Thais hate the corrupted Thaksin but he simply won't fade away. Thaksin's the one instigating violence. He has nowhere else to go so he try every means to make a comeback.

      Remember LKY's ruse of using military intervention in a 'freak' election?

  • Chris88110's Avatar
    412 posts since Jun '08
    • kids, remember that spamming your friends with propaganda makes you lose friends

       

       

      and people asking you to spread propaganda?

       

       

       

       

      They need you, a complete stranger to help spread the propaganda because they have lost all their friends.

       

       

       

       

       

      if you want to spread propaganda, remember to do it for a good cause, not randomly spread it, causing pain and suffereing to others.

       

       

       

       

      remember, friends are forever, politics is not.

       

       

       

       

       

      large spaces distracts people

       

       

       

       

       

      when you see some guy throwing insults around, you know he is losing the argument.

  • oldbreadstinks's Avatar
    2,882 posts since Dec '03
    • Originally posted by TemplarKnight:

      if german celebrating hitler birthday then hor... the whole europe will march their army into berlin and exterminate the germans.

      they couldn't even be bother to defend themselves properly, how are they going to attack another? and targeting a country that took over most of western in the war?

      celebrating hitler's birthday is very likely if germany had won the war.

  • I-like-flings(m)'s Avatar
    14,120 posts since Feb '04
  • AndrewPKYap's Avatar
    14,120 posts since Oct '06
    • Originally posted by kramnave:

      I mean..bombs, deaths, fighting with weapons isn't exactly civil disobedience....its violence....

      The triple murder thingy isn't exactly politically motivated isn't it  and has nothing to do with this ? Then might as well talk about serial killings in the states...

       

      Name them. Post the links and show us how many, the violence related to teh protests. Like I said, the triple murder + 1 in Singapore is worse.

       

  • AndrewPKYap's Avatar
    14,120 posts since Oct '06
    • Originally posted by googoomuck:

      That's because the Thais hate the corrupted Thaksin but he simply won't fade away. Thaksin's the one instigating violence. He has nowhere else to go so he try every means to make a comeback.

      Remember LKY's ruse of using military intervention in a 'freak' election?


      Yes the Thais are no Silliporeans, they can smell a rat a mile off.... the despot is taking public money in broad daylight and the Silliporeans cannot do anything about it.

       

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