Read in ST that so many hostages died in the line of fire. One commando was quoted as saying it was pitch dark inside and they just fired at whatever enemy fire they saw. What if there was hostage human shield in front of the terrorist?

Why no negotiation in the first place?? These militants were fighting for their Kashmiri bros and sis, they want the Indian Army to stop harassing them...no room for negotiation at all?

And also all 5 Israeli hostages died when their building were stormed by commandos.

Hey these Indians, not very smart are they??

They are smart. But they are even more desparate to end the situation quickly. It also looks like they did not have a well thought out plan. Probably this was due to complete lack of intelligence.  On the other hand , the terrorists were all very well prepared & killed anyone in sight - I dont think one can negotiate with these guys.

Those guys are pros.

if they wanted to end it quickly and anyhow shoot, might as well drop a bomb on the place

night vision goggles?

Originally posted by skythewood:

night vision goggles?

Their police bus looks worse den our SBS non-aircon buses.

-.-

negotiation? night vision goggles?

These are the very police who charged and flogged at their own ppl with canes, batons and sticks. Wack, beat and swing like human lifes are cheap.   

Originally posted by Rock^Star:

Read in ST that so many hostages died in the line of fire. One commando was quoted as saying it was pitch dark inside and they just fired at whatever enemy fire they saw. What if there was hostage human shield in front of the terrorist?

 

Why no negotiation in the first place?? These militants were fighting for their Kashmiri bros and sis, they want the Indian Army to stop harassing them...no room for negotiation at all?

 

And also all 5 Israeli hostages died when their building were stormed by commandos.

 

Hey these Indians, not very smart are they??

It seems strange to me that the Indian govt wants to hold onto Kashmir.

I mean what strategic significance is Kashmir to India? anyone?

gutless terrorists!

if you have a bone to pick with India, go right up to its head, or ruler and other senior government officials and generals.

why harm the innocents?

all terrorists should be wiped out from the face of this Earth. they don't deserve to live among us, since they have no regards for human lives at all.

they should be exterminated on sight.

those terrorists seemed to be well trained, i've seen pics of a suspected terrorist holding a rifle with unmistaken trigger disipline. it looks almost like an amphibious commando raid by any country's military,

The terrorists have night vision goggles. The terrorists dont.

Originally posted by 4sg:

It seems strange to me that the Indian govt wants to hold onto Kashmir.

I mean what strategic significance is Kashmir to India? anyone?

Kashmir silk? economic and national pride i assume...india already lost land to china, so imagine how malu they will be when they lose kashmir

Originally posted by rain-coat:

Kashmir silk? economic and national pride i assume...india already lost land to china, so imagine how malu they will be when they lose kashmir

Kashmiri wool, you mean?

oh haha ok aiya same concept lah...

Seems queer that flights to bangkok were cancelled but not flights to Mumbai.

Originally posted by Fu:

Seems queer that flights to bangkok were cancelled but not flights to Mumbai.

simple really.

bangkok airport not operational. cant even land aircraft there.

Mumbai is the financial capital of India, even if the airport closed, people will still find their way there for business and otherwise. NYC didnt close down after 9/11 as well.same thing here.

Well I dunno what Kashmir has but nobody wans to lose any land man. Johor so big, give us until kota tinggi can or not?? keke

Somehow I think the NHG commandos are one dumb lot. Brave alright....but dumb.

Originally posted by Rock^Star:

Well I dunno what Kashmir has but nobody wans to lose any land man. Johor so big, give us until kota tinggi can or not?? keke

 

Somehow I think the NHG commandos are one dumb lot. Brave alright....but dumb.

Hahaha u hit the nail on the coffin.....

the terrorist are pros but aren't the police pros as well? don't they have any forces specially to counter terrorism?

Originally posted by mamamamama:

the terrorist are pros but aren't the police pros as well? don't they have any forces specially to counter terrorism?

they train in counter-terrorist warfare using buffalos as jeeps.

if you start negociate with terrorist and they walk away. the next terrorist target will be much bigger.

Just have to look at Somalia pirates they now go for the bigger price. - Tanker.

The facts that the terrorist taken over multiple hotels. are going to be urgly from this onset. nobody is going to walk out of this incident pretty especially for the indian govt.  

I am only surprise they took this long.

The Russian would have pull out everything including gas. They are willing to take the risk of killing percentage of the hostage to get to the terrorist.

since this seems to be shaping up to be an after action review thread ....

then I can't resist posting this ...

something stuck me about this picture when I saw it, first in the BBC, then in the new york times ...

This indian commando chappy has an interesting posture with his MP5 ... looks like he's aiming a water pistol at songkran instead of an MP 5 in a hostage crisis, caption says he's firing at suspected terrorists (note the finger on the trigger)

taking from the new york times site ... http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/11/28/world/asia/20081128MUMBAI_4.html

maybe he knows something we don't, maybe he's got one of those gun mounted camera sight thingy mounted on his MP 5 (doesn't look like it) .... maybe it's bollywood style, or he's been watching too many bad gangsta movies ... but I don't know what he's hoping to hit with that posture ... and who taught him to shoot like that .... and with live hostages around, that should border on the criminal, instead of farcial ....

or maybe .... he's been studying infantry tactics from the liberian civil war

http://www.fmft.net/archives/001463.html

anyone wondering why so many hostages died ? ....

wow ... just wow .....

Originally posted by Fatum:

since this seems to be shaping up to be an after action review thread ....

then I can't resist posting this ...

something stuck me about this picture when I saw it, first in the BBC, then in the new york times ...

This indian commando chappy has an interesting posture with his MP5 ... looks like he's aiming a water pistol at songkran instead of an MP 5 in a hostage crisis, caption says he's firing at suspected terrorists (note the finger on the trigger)

 

taking from the new york times site ... http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/11/28/world/asia/20081128MUMBAI_4.html

maybe he knows something we don't, maybe he's got one of those gun mounted camera sight thingy mounted on his MP 5 (doesn't look like it) .... maybe it's bollywood style, or he's been watching too many bad gangsta movies ... but I don't know what he's hoping to hit with that posture ... and who taught him to shoot like that .... and with live hostages around, that should border on the criminal, instead of farcial ....

or maybe .... he's been studying infantry tactics from the liberian civil war

 

http://www.fmft.net/archives/001463.html

anyone wondering why so many hostages died ? ....

wow ... just wow .....

 

You can't tell a pro from amateur from those pictures?  The commando pro is using it with ONE HAND!!

Guess what some of the Indian Marine head says?

'An AK series gun is not a weapon that an untrained man can use,' said the head of the Marine Commando assault unit, his face and head covered in black to avoid identification.

Apparently he didn't see your pictures.

IMO, the Indians could have handled this better if they had the capability to.

so what happened in the end? is it resolved yet? all the terrorists killed or arresteD?