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  • GotNoLife™'s Avatar
    30 posts since Dec '06
    • Which one do you all think gets the better treatment afterall?

      From what I see, NSF gets hell lot of sai kang which should be done by the regulars and NSF do not get pardonned easily for small mistakes. NSF often get charged and go to DB for breach of security for example bringing in camera or even being late.

      NSMen gets a smaller amount of sai kang but still they can afford to slack and not kana anything big. They often get pardonned easily for the same mistakes as mentioned above. Bringing in a camera to camp mostly results in an imposement of a fine. Missing on RT will result in an imposement of a fine. From what I know both of them are in violation of improper conduct and discipline.

      Is it possible that the conviction of NSMen are more lenient because they are civillians with a family or there are certain restrictions to sending an NSMen to DB? I also heard that Undergraduates or a degree holder seldom get sent to DB for mistakes (excluding big offences like theft and AWOL of course)

       

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  • GotNoLife™'s Avatar
    30 posts since Dec '06
    • Well it does matter to an extent. I am just questioning that all servicemen should be equal.

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    34,952 posts since Apr '03
  • GotNoLife™'s Avatar
    30 posts since Dec '06
    • Yes its true. But in any case, right now its good to have NSMen more leniency than NSF. Well you are a NSMen for majority of your life while an NSF for 2 years.

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    34,952 posts since Apr '03
  • Spartans's Avatar
    1,733 posts since Mar '07
    • NSF = nothing but a cheap labour. Will you be courteous to your cheap labourer?

      NS Men = Something closer to a Guest... but not yet a Guest. Come back to camp once in a blue moon.

  • BrUtUs's Avatar
    14,060 posts since Apr '03
    • Originally posted by GotNoLife™:

      Well it does matter to an extent. I am just questioning that all servicemen should be equal.


      when u become nsmen then ask again...

  • corebooster's Avatar
    4,524 posts since Apr '06
    • u never noe, who is that NSmen when he is not recalled. he may be a bigshot somewhere else..esp civilian govt sector...

  • CannyOng's Avatar
    1,547 posts since May '04
    • Originally posted by GotNoLife™:

      Which one do you all think gets the better treatment afterall?

      From what I see, NSF gets hell lot of sai kang which should be done by the regulars and NSF do not get pardonned easily for small mistakes. NSF often get charged and go to DB for breach of security for example bringing in camera or even being late.

      NSMen gets a smaller amount of sai kang but still they can afford to slack and not kana anything big. They often get pardonned easily for the same mistakes as mentioned above. Bringing in a camera to camp mostly results in an imposement of a fine. Missing on RT will result in an imposement of a fine. From what I know both of them are in violation of improper conduct and discipline.

      Is it possible that the conviction of NSMen are more lenient because they are civillians with a family or there are certain restrictions to sending an NSMen to DB? I also heard that Undergraduates or a degree holder seldom get sent to DB for mistakes (excluding big offences like theft and AWOL of course)

       


      Come on la.. NS men come back just like for holiday only... The most 2 weeks they will go back liao. What do u expect them to do?  Those sai kang need strength one ho.  NSF inside train for BMT 3 month liao. Damm fit, of cos can do sai kang la.

      Btw, NS men are yr senior compares NSF. Pls respect them. They go thru the shit of NSF before. Is is their job to slack. I go back don't even bother to greet colonel. He see me with the yellow NS men tack, also don't disturb me...

      Charge me also need more than 2 weeks,ok!

      Edited by CannyOng 27 Nov `08, 10:54PM
  • Fatum's Avatar
    25,181 posts since Aug '05
  • BrUtUs's Avatar
    14,060 posts since Apr '03
    • Originally posted by CannyOng:


      Come on la.. NS men come back just like for holiday only... The most 2 weeks they will go back liao. What do u expect them to do?  Those sai kang need strength one ho.  NSF inside train for BMT 3 month liao. Damm fit, of cos can do sai kang la.

      Btw, NS men are yr senior compares NSF. Pls respect them. They go thru the shit of NSF before. Is is their job to slack. I go back don't even bother to greet colonel. He see me with the yellow NS men tack, also don't disturb me...

      Charge me also need more than 2 weeks,ok!


      x2... well said...

  • GotNoLife™'s Avatar
    30 posts since Dec '06
  • BrUtUs's Avatar
    14,060 posts since Apr '03
    • Originally posted by GotNoLife™:

      No big fuss la. You all take it too seriously liao.

      Anyway, I NSMan liao. Thank you


      r u the most hated guy in ur platoon? or u the one who ord liao go fill in lots of cock suggestion tat end up screw up the new batches?

  • charlize's Avatar
    8,765 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by GotNoLife™:

      Well it does matter to an extent. I am just questioning that all servicemen should be equal.

      That's why the army has the white horse classification system.

       

      So that all servicemen are treated equally. icon_lol.gif

  • skythewood's Avatar
    4,383 posts since Jul '07
    • Originally posted by charlize:

      That's why the army has the white horse classification system.

       

      So that all servicemen are treated equally. icon_lol.gif

      the white horse classification was set up to ensure that NO special treatment is accorded to high level civil servent/army personnel's son.

      to ensure that NO special treatment is given, they are identified and made known to all the trainers so that they will NOT treat them special.

      yes, that is the truth. and yes, that idea is damn dumb,

  • charlize's Avatar
    8,765 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by skythewood:

      the white horse classification was set up to ensure that NO special treatment is accorded to high level civil servent/army personnel's son.

      to ensure that NO special treatment is given, they are identified and made known to all the trainers so that they will NOT treat them special.

      yes, that is the truth. and yes, that idea is damn dumb,

      Somebody was paid for coming up with that idea.

       

      Maybe he genuinely believed in it. icon_lol.gif

      Edited by charlize 28 Nov `08, 12:27AM
  • MaNyZeR's Avatar
    105 posts since Aug '08
    • NSF gets such treatment is because they are going under the training phase... this 2 years... you cannot run... you have to suffer. Understand?? SUCK THUMB!!!!

  • fishbuff1's Avatar
    153 posts since Jun '08
    • it is like comparing the feeling of getting poked by a cactus or a cucumber. yes, cucumber is smoother but overall, u still get poked!

  • Call4ljw's Avatar
    160 posts since May '08
  • kopiosatu's Avatar
    53,832 posts since Jan '03
  • thoreldan's Avatar
    3,952 posts since Jun '03
    • ICT should cut short to 2 years

      1st year : 2 days training

      2nd year: 1/2 day training + 1/2 day ROD celebration

  • Spartans's Avatar
    1,733 posts since Mar '07
    • Originally posted by thoreldan:

      ICT should cut short to 2 years

      1st year : 2 days training

      2nd year: 1/2 day training + 1/2 day ROD celebration


      Are you running for the Defence Minister post?

      You have my vote. icon_lol.gif

  • thoreldan's Avatar
    3,952 posts since Jun '03
    • Originally posted by Spartans:


      Are you running for the Defence Minister post?

      You have my vote. icon_lol.gif

      Thank you!

      I think I can a lot of supporters too!

  • kengkia's Avatar
    3,520 posts since Aug '04
    • i'll be the first one to kill TS if his wish gets through...what getting NSmen to have same kinda treatment as NSF...icon_evil.gif

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